| Posted By Tokin on 11/13/03 @ 10:51:19 PM |
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Okay, here is the debate on God. I know, Im am supposed to be Catholic, but I believe different from it so, w/e. Okay, the debate is, does he fucking exist and if so, what do you think he actually made. I think that if there is a "GOD" that he didnt create everything the way it seems. I believe in evolution. I believe that we evolved, and when scientists prove it perfectly(They already pretty much have) the world will open its eyes, and realize the bullshit. I dont think he took a rib from Adam and made Eve, that would be pointless, and would hurt Adam, so yeah. I believe in some form of re-incarnation. I believe that humans know all of this, they just dont want to accept that their ancestors, and theirselves, have been living a lie. I believe most of the bible is made up bullshit. I believe he didnt walk across water, it was a puddle, if God made wine, then you know the disciples were drunk, and they are the ones who wrote it, so yeah. I dont believe that he will come again, he died, its over. If their is God, then the movie the Matrix has alot of truth in it, and sub-liminal messages. I believe that the world is going to end, because humans are a virus. A plauge of the Earth.-Even more that makes this world remind me of the Movie. I think that doing what "The Kid" did in the AniMatrix would be something I am going to do...yeah, havent seen it, find out. |
| Posted By TEH.BETCHA on 11/13/03 @ 11:07:00 PM |
| Alot of stuff surrounding God and religion is pure bull shit... Also I do not believe that there is a specific god, or that 'gods' are actually beings atall. But i do beleive there is a higher power than simply what makes the world spin (which is its realation to other planets) |
| Posted By lincolnluxor on 11/14/03 @ 12:31:14 AM |
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I personally believe in many gods. There is just to much for one 'god' to watch over... I mean look at how big the freaking Milky Way is. You think one guy could hold over this universe? No way! There is way to much shit out there! I do believe in reincarnation also, only in some cases though. People who have lived a 'full' life... they're done... they die... because their soul wants them to. Evolution = Bullshit. Scientist¡¯s have shown how humans have evolved from 'cave men', but that is also bullshit. if you look at all the different shapes and sizes of peoples skeletons within the past 5 years i'm sure that you will find someone¡¯s skull that will match up nearly perfectly with those '5000 year old' skulls :\ i have no clue about the rib shit! But it is kinda crazy how we (guys) have a rib less!  THE ENTIRE Bible is bullshit! it shows us all a great deal on how to live a 'good' life, so i believe in some of it's beliefs, but the stories and such are all made up. I think some old fuck took all these little stories that were told from generation to generation and wrote them down. There was 'him' to walk across the water! And The guy who turned water to wine is my god   (Thank you!)no one is coming to 'save us'... again... a bunch of bullshit Humans are not a virus... we are just the most intelligent (I¡¯m not lol), creative, and intuitive creatures on earth. |
| Posted By tacoX on 11/14/03 @ 11:50:09 AM |
| I belive in god, although I dont belive he really does anything. Some days I belive in him, others I dont... |
| Posted By Fake on 11/14/03 @ 2:38:46 PM |
| I beleive in God and all that stuff. I don't go to church, but I still believe in him. |
| Posted By XRedBlazeX on 11/14/03 @ 4:26:57 PM |
| Short and simple for ya... I'm an athiest... I don't believe in god, I don't believe in higher-powers, I don't believe in anything. |
| Posted By Drizzt on 11/14/03 @ 5:20:33 PM |
| well im mormon and we believe that basicly our worldly exixstantce is sort of a test that it is to make u choose if u are good or bad this world decideds your future... |
| Posted By TEH.BETCHA on 11/14/03 @ 6:14:22 PM |
| you all have some very interesting views on the subject |
| Posted By pyro_junky on 11/15/03 @ 1:25:54 PM |
ok i will exsplain how god was made. no... not god himself but the myth ofan all powerful being. i will use smilies to tell the story im a smart guy who knows everythign and you know nothing. oh ya? well how was earth made? um...... he lied! he is a witch bun him! no wait! i know! it was made by some dude named god... and he um... is our master who um.... made earth. and um... that baby over there is his son! my baby is gods son? yes whats his name? jesus! my little jesus is gods son! ha ha the dumb ass's fell for it
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| Posted By Masterpro3 on 11/16/03 @ 1:33:41 PM |
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yoyoyo god is here in the world i believe i dont disrespect it. i believe it most of the times but there some times i dont really believe is he controls the whole world, whole stuff and ppl? i dont think so. hey he got gods its a good thing i dont like ppl that diss gods. gods do the right thing. u do the wrong thing they will not give u a chance to be great again? yo god is unbeatable u must trust them. u mess around with them they can make u dumber ppl think gods a are jokes swearing to god just like i swear to god? it just makes it worst if u dont do the stuff u swear! some ppl are gay some ppl are normal but we must get god to make us normal!!!... yoyoyo dont trust ppl trust god 60% cause they are right! ppl love to dis other gods that are not there country god well that is just stupid. some guy i known he thinks god suks one day he came to my house and he dis my god i get piss i watch him every day in school getting trouble just like he got fear 24/7 o. yo maybe the god has the right thing to punish him or it is hes problem to dis my god up. hey dis god make fun oh god just make u a bitch he mess with my god is like messing with me! hey that guy think hes the god of me hey he cant control me. i watch him suffer i wish the guy burry alife after all the bad thing he does that guy is really white but he thinks black yoyo he is black deep inside evil always lose good always win he think hes the master of bullying im the stoper of him he cant see me? he thinks he could get away from me very fast after he does all the stupid things relate to me?/nonoo he do thing ill catch him like he never been catch. things are normal if you dont mess around with it...that guy name is funny too hes name is called some thing forgot about it (yugiop) wut ever it is. now u see the differents if u dont believe me? dont believe me? DON'T POST MORE THEN ONCE IN A ROW ON A THREAD ~XRedBlazeX |
| Posted By liquidm on 12/09/03 @ 2:57:05 AM |
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Hey guys... LOOK BIG. If ya think God doesnt exist then how do you explain yourself? Do you know why we eat? Do you know why we sleep? Do you know why we shit? I dont like to waste my time on those stupid routines, but i have no choice because im a human.... Now think, how many hours do you guys sleep? 8hours? 9hours? 12hours?? Its a complete waste of time!! I prefer doing other useful things... If we have the power to evolve (maybe during the monkey's time) then why we just didnt scrap the resting hours? or make it shorter? Wouldnt it be nice to have a full 24 hour day? See... we arent very clever, cant even control ourself well... :  I ask you guys a question... Do ants on the floor understand human being?? When they look at us do they undestrand why we are so huge (probably they even think human are tall buildings) ? Do they know that we eat and sleep just like they do? Do they know that we can invent things??  Look... we human being is just like small little ants, looking at the bigger size and misunderstood them... We are the smaller beings and therefore (just like ants) dont know and understad what is the *big* thing which is *God*... Christ is cooommmingggg sooon......... 
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| Posted By surf on 12/09/03 @ 6:20:39 AM | ||
your right, and I beleave you] but you know that you bumped an old topic (I can't really say any thing since I do it every now and again) |
| Posted By liquidm on 12/09/03 @ 8:03:42 AM |
| Add salt and peppers to the cross..... Cut it in a half and eat it... sonner or later we will have a new god. =) Sometimes I dont agree to what he decides too... lol |
| Posted By surf on 12/11/03 @ 6:25:06 AM |
| O K? |
| Posted By Scoogen on 12/11/03 @ 9:56:19 PM |
| Personally, i do believe in God... he has touched me his own special way... i guess that only i can understand it, but i just know... its a gut feeling after a lot of experiences... that he does exist, and is still out there |
| Posted By TEH.BETCHA on 12/13/03 @ 7:23:54 AM |
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the specific religions that people worship were created because everyone was afraid of what happens when they died. But some of it is likely true. Because the 'big bang' theory of how the universe was created is bull shit. There can't be absolutly nothing, and then suddenly BOOM a a universe appears. Someone, or something had to create it, so that means there is a god of sorts, but not the gods described in any bible or religous texts. Also if people keep 'bumping up old threads' then obviously it is not old yet, and people want to still talk about it. besides no one posts new threads in this section anyways. |
| Posted By Black-Syth on 12/14/03 @ 8:01:21 PM |
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I, personally, don't believe in a god per-se. I do, however, believe in a higher power. I can't quite put my finger on it, I'm only human. Without a higher power like "God", existance would be meaningless. Why do stars exist? Why does the Earth exist? Why do I exist? Without a higher power, these questions would not only be meaningless, but the answer to them would be that there is no purpose, and I am a man who believes that everything in existance has a purpose, and a balance. Good and Evil. Evil must exist for there to be a good, for example. Another thing, nothing cannot exist. Allow me to explain. Time, for example, must have existed forever because forever is a measurement of time. Time is something. Think about your perception of nothing, can you imagine it? No. Most people imagine nothing as infinite darkness. This theory is flawed, because black is the absence of all of the colors, and for there to be an absence, they must exist in the first place. There must also be space for something to be absent from it. We humans have been blessed with perception, and this cannot be taken away from us. We percept what it is like sitting here, and we will percept what it is to die, and what it is to lie dead, and what it means to not breathe, but that makes little sense, that is why I believe in a higher power. We have been blessed with this mind that is self aware, and we can ask questions, but we cannot answer them. To every question there is an answer, and since we ask them, someone or something must have the answer. |
| Posted By TEH.BETCHA on 12/16/03 @ 6:20:00 PM |
| exactly, just like i said the big-bang theory is impossible. 'god' or a being of the like had to have created the universe |
| Posted By liquidm on 12/17/03 @ 10:16:55 PM |
| However many others came out with many testimonies concerning God too... |
| Posted By XRedBlazeX on 12/18/03 @ 6:55:53 PM | ||||
Well, first of all I don't think anything has a meaning. Why would it have to? People are just creating religions and explanations of the universe to appease thier mind's hunger. Second, I don't believe that "good" and "evil" can exist. Everything is judgemental, everything is in prospective. Without a god or higher-power, there is noone who has the authority to define what is good and what is evil. Governments try, but if they really suceeded then crime wouldn't exist... therfore, everything is balanced out.
You are quite wrong... If you study the big-bang theory, you realize that what the whole thing states is that out universe is constantly expanding and collapsing. Just before nothing exists, the process of collapsing is reversed and the universe starts expanding again. It has done so forever, and will continue to do so forever. The human race will eventually die out long before the universe collapses however, and all we have done, all we know, will be lost. |
| Posted By liquidm on 12/19/03 @ 5:48:21 AM | ||
Then there is no point of doing whatever you are doin now if the whole thing gonna collapse later rite??
I do agree what you said... Human dont posseses the power to judge others because they do make mistakes sometimes... |
| Posted By XRedBlazeX on 12/19/03 @ 5:06:34 PM | ||||
Yeah.
That's not what I'm saying... I'm saying that right and wrong can't exist because only a higher power or god could define what is good and evil, and I don't believe one exists. To all of you who think Hitler was evil.... what would have happened sure if he won WWII? Then the entire world would think Jews are evil. Was what Hitler did morally wrong though? No, morals cannot exist in the absence of a higher-power. |
| Posted By Drizzt on 12/19/03 @ 8:05:37 PM |
| what hitler did was morally wrong dude he killed millions |
| Posted By Black-Syth on 12/19/03 @ 9:58:39 PM | ||
See, I agree with you, I'm Polish. What Red is saying, is that you personally don't have the power to define immorality. Tell me Blaze, if everyone in the world thinks something is wrong, does that make it wrong? |
| Posted By liquidm on 12/20/03 @ 2:19:25 AM |
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my mum always tell me: "get the hell out from the computer room, you should be studying and you have been spending like... 2 hours on computer!!! "to me 2 hours isnt too long, i usually spent 5-8 hours on it lol.... Every one has a different judgement which is affected by his/her experience, ability, belief etc, which is crated or linked to another person (why dont do it?? cos dad said it is evil)... So everything we are is because of influences by others.. |
| Posted By XRedBlazeX on 12/21/03 @ 1:13:33 AM | ||||
You're only thinking about your morals.
No, right and wrong are opinions. But this would never happen, as you could not get the entire human race to agree on something even if you tried. |
| Posted By surf on 12/22/03 @ 9:44:52 AM | ||||||
you are right even something like sex some one will say that they don't like it, yea I know |
| Posted By TEH.BETCHA on 12/22/03 @ 12:08:51 PM |
| redblaze why do you have to force your opinion on everyone? everyone thinks differently about the subject, you can state your opinion, but could please try not to be so forceful about, no one is right or wrong on the subject, it is just a matter of opinion. |
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