Genesis GV70 Forum & GV80 Forum banner
1 - 20 of 20 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
I was waiting for GV70 since the GV80's showed up at the dealers. Did not like GV80 side chrome accents (too much chrome gives it a cheap look and may people complain about it, of course this is a matter of taste).

I was very eager and as soon as I saw the car in the showroom, I filled the financial application, negotiated the trade in, etc. The only thing stopping me was -- they have just one car and it was in the showroom, not available for the test drive. So I went elsewhere and did a test drive there. The car dives great and I like everything about it.
But on my way out I stopped to look once more and noticed all the door handles being appointed with the black chrome accents have huge black matted oxidation from people touching the handles. Unfortunately, the 3.5 Turbo models all come with the black chrome accents option. I am very concerned because I drive a lot in the mountains and they put very aggressive chemicals on the road. I know how to maintain the chrome to look good, but this oxidation just from hands touching is scary. This black chrome will not withstand a single winter season. I contacted Genesis but got a brush off as a response. Then I started looking on the forums and see a lot of black chrome complaints for Genesis and KIA.

I am hoping to get the feedback from the people who already have GV70 with 3.5 turbo and willing to share their experience. Maybe the car I saw was just a single "bad apple" case, or maybe it is a more wide spread issue. This is truly a fly in the ointment case and is the only thing which is stopping me from buying this car.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
I was waiting for GV70 since the GV80's showed up at the dealers. Did not like GV80 side chrome accents (too much chrome gives it a cheap look and may people complain about it, of course this is a matter of taste).

I was very eager and as soon as I saw the car in the showroom, I filled the financial application, negotiated the trade in, etc. The only thing stopping me was -- they have just one car and it was in the showroom, not available for the test drive. So I went elsewhere and did a test drive there. The car dives great and I like everything about it.
But on my way out I stopped to look once more and noticed all the door handles being appointed with the black chrome accents have huge black matted oxidation from people touching the handles. Unfortunately, the 3.5 Turbo models all come with the black chrome accents option. I am very concerned because I drive a lot in the mountains and they put very aggressive chemicals on the road. I know how to maintain the chrome to look good, but this oxidation just from hands touching is scary. This black chrome will not withstand a single winter season. I contacted Genesis but got a brush off as a response. Then I started looking on the forums and see a lot of black chrome complaints for Genesis and KIA.

I am hoping to get the feedback from the people who already have GV70 with 3.5 turbo and willing to share their experience. Maybe the car I saw was just a single "bad apple" case, or maybe it is a more wide spread issue. This is truly a fly in the ointment case and is the only thing which is stopping me from buying this car.
slap a ceramic coating on there and you’ll be fine.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Thanks for the response!

I do my cars detailing myself as an amateur :) -- clay, polish, and sealant but newer did go into the ceramic coating land.
I did some lookup in the past and there are always a horror stories even for the best rated ceramic coats. It is also tricky -- you might wipe it out almost completely and believe that you have a coat layer when in fact it might be gone in a few weeks. Also, many ceramic coating compounds are not suitable for chrome and might just destroy it.
There are professional services of course, but in case of failure they also wash their hands so to speak.

Some references I saw recommend using the "normal" clear coat polish as a protectant for black chrome, so I am considering this option as well.
It would be really helpful if other owners would chime in on this too.

Do you apply ceramic coating yourself and if yes, do you have positive experience on prior cars, and can recommend a particular brand which works well for chrome, or do you use professional service for coating?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter · #5 ·
But that shouldn't have to be the solution.
That was my initial concern as well. The chrome was originally used in cars for decoration because of the beauty, and corrosion resistance.
But they did not use magnesium chloride on the roads way back. Also the coating nowadays is such a thin film layer -- it is pretty much cosmetic.
So i am OK with maintenance for this "fake" chrome as long as it is maintainable.
More importantly, I am not sure this applies to all 3.5 turbo models, I hope not -- I still like this car very much.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
James97,

Thanks agin for the response. I guess the silence on this question indicates no problems so far with the new cars. I also walked around the dealer's lot and inspected other cars with black chrome -- seem to be OK.

So I'll be picking up my new GV70 this Friday :)

Regarding ceramic coating, I think there is a lot of hype in advertising and a certain level of risk of the car being messed up even by a professional detailer. A good objective review I found is posted here. Considering my new GV70 has a dark color and the risk of exposing possible ceramic coating defects is higher due to this, I've decided to use the tried and true synthetic sealant on the new car.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
James97,

Thanks agin for the response. I guess the silence on this question indicates no problems so far with the new cars. I also walked around the dealer's lot and inspected other cars with black chrome -- seem to be OK.

So I'll be picking up my new GV70 this Friday :)

Regarding ceramic coating, I think there is a lot of hype in advertising and a certain level of risk of the car being messed up even by a professional detailer. A good objective review I found is posted here. Considering my new GV70 has a dark color and the risk of exposing possible ceramic coating defects is higher due to this, I've decided to use the tried and true synthetic sealant on the new car.
I just got my GV70 a couple weeks back. The Himalayan grey. A beautiful color. Just had it ceramic coated and the metallic component really pops with the coating.
Like anything you have to do your research and use a reputable shop so they ensure the paint and clearcoat is in pristine condition before applying the coating.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
I was waiting for GV70 since the GV80's showed up at the dealers. Did not like GV80 side chrome accents (too much chrome gives it a cheap look and may people complain about it, of course this is a matter of taste).

I was very eager and as soon as I saw the car in the showroom, I filled the financial application, negotiated the trade in, etc. The only thing stopping me was -- they have just one car and it was in the showroom, not available for the test drive. So I went elsewhere and did a test drive there. The car dives great and I like everything about it.
But on my way out I stopped to look once more and noticed all the door handles being appointed with the black chrome accents have huge black matted oxidation from people touching the handles. Unfortunately, the 3.5 Turbo models all come with the black chrome accents option. I am very concerned because I drive a lot in the mountains and they put very aggressive chemicals on the road. I know how to maintain the chrome to look good, but this oxidation just from hands touching is scary. This black chrome will not withstand a single winter season. I contacted Genesis but got a brush off as a response. Then I started looking on the forums and see a lot of black chrome complaints for Genesis and KIA.

I am hoping to get the feedback from the people who already have GV70 with 3.5 turbo and willing to share their experience. Maybe the car I saw was just a single "bad apple" case, or maybe it is a more wide spread issue. This is truly a fly in the ointment case and is the only thing which is stopping me from buying this car.
I just traded in my 2021 G70 for the GV70 and yes I had that oxidation with my G70 but I am such a clean car freak that it was not an issue. I apply regular chrome polish on it and it stays pretty clean for a bit and just needs an occasional microfiber towel wipe!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Thanks for the response. I just got mine today. It's in Himalayan Black color. The article I saw on the black chrome maintenance says to wipe it with microfiber towel with water and use quality wax for protection. I will be using Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 -- that's what I use for all my cars and will be using it for GV70 too.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
James97,

Thanks agin for the response. I guess the silence on this question indicates no problems so far with the new cars. I also walked around the dealer's lot and inspected other cars with black chrome -- seem to be OK.

So I'll be picking up my new GV70 this Friday :)

Regarding ceramic coating, I think there is a lot of hype in advertising and a certain level of risk of the car being messed up even by a professional detailer. A good objective review I found is posted here. Considering my new GV70 has a dark color and the risk of exposing possible ceramic coating defects is higher due to this, I've decided to use the tried and true synthetic sealant on the new car.
Ceramic coating is 100% overhyped for a lot of things. I always get a kick out of some of the ads I see on Facebook and such but it is worth every penny to me just for keeping the car cleaner and easier cleanup. It's not going to do a thing as far as preventing chips or scratches unless you're talking super minor swirls from dirty microfiber rags and all but for the cleanup factor alone it's worth it to me. Not all products are created equal. The 3M products to me are still some of the best. My paint is so freaking slick now after the 3M coating water won't stick to it and after a rain when I drive most the dirt blows off. Beats the crap out of whatever my detailer used before on my Lotus. The paint definitely need a good paint correction first even on a brand new car (mine had 28 miles on it) which is where a lot of places drop the ball and mess things up. I ceramic coated my paint/windows/wheels/calipers. Haven't done the trim as I am back and forth if I am going to black it out but if not I am going to ceramic coat it and then put some PPF over the high contact areas such as door handles. The black chrome looks killer and yes it takes a little more work to keep it looking spotless but the coating on it seems solid so I am not super concerned about oxidation or anything like that with it
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
I was waiting for GV70 since the GV80's showed up at the dealers. Did not like GV80 side chrome accents (too much chrome gives it a cheap look and may people complain about it, of course this is a matter of taste).

I was very eager and as soon as I saw the car in the showroom, I filled the financial application, negotiated the trade in, etc. The only thing stopping me was -- they have just one car and it was in the showroom, not available for the test drive. So I went elsewhere and did a test drive there. The car dives great and I like everything about it.
But on my way out I stopped to look once more and noticed all the door handles being appointed with the black chrome accents have huge black matted oxidation from people touching the handles. Unfortunately, the 3.5 Turbo models all come with the black chrome accents option. I am very concerned because I drive a lot in the mountains and they put very aggressive chemicals on the road. I know how to maintain the chrome to look good, but this oxidation just from hands touching is scary. This black chrome will not withstand a single winter season. I contacted Genesis but got a brush off as a response. Then I started looking on the forums and see a lot of black chrome complaints for Genesis and KIA.

I am hoping to get the feedback from the people who already have GV70 with 3.5 turbo and willing to share their experience. Maybe the car I saw was just a single "bad apple" case, or maybe it is a more wide spread issue. This is truly a fly in the ointment case and is the only thing which is stopping me from buying this car.
I had the same initial impression at the dealership, ask the vendor about it and one of the shop guys came up with a microfiber tower with wax product and that was it. After purchasing I have being using the chemical guy ceramic coating line of products and it looks like it just came out of the dealership
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Ceramic Coating....yes, its helpful. Just picked up my GV70 Sunday. Im a long time detailer ( hobby really, full time RN in the ER). Its more hype than anything else. If you live where it snows a lot and there is a lot of salt used ABSOLUTELY. IF NOT, If you have your own hose, space and like claying, polishing and waxing ( like me) then it's a matter of preference.
For the money they are charging around here ( 600.00 for 1 to 3 years plus " maintainance" every 60 to 90 days for 100.00) I rather do the " harder" work and enjoy the free " therapy".
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
Anybody know where to get gloss black material - like pin-strip tape - but bigger/wider, so I can black out the "C" pillar area on my GV70? Sure would love to try this out - should make the GV70 look even sharper!!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
I have the same issue with my Gv70. It’s been four months since i took delivery of the suv and man all the black chrome trim is horrible. It’s in the shop now to be addressed. In my opinion this is a definite design flaw. The trim at the window is the worst but it’s all over. Notice how some of the areas is very clean and bad by a line. That tells me whatever laminate system they used doesnt apply right. Funny thing the dealership gave me a loaner yes a gv70 and it’s trim is just as bad as mine. The service advisor told me it’s the acid rain here in Florida lol. Question, does your my hood flutter at highway speeds?
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
I have the same issue with my Gv70. It’s been four months since i took delivery of the suv and man all the black chrome trim is horrible. It’s in the shop now to be addressed. In my opinion this is a definite design flaw. The trim at the window is the worst but it’s all over. Notice how some of the areas is very clean and bad by a line. That tells me whatever laminate system they used doesnt apply right. Funny thing the dealership gave me a loaner yes a gv70 and it’s trim is just as bad as mine. The service advisor told me it’s the acid rain here in Florida lol. Question, does your my hood flutter at highway speeds?
looking at your photos I see a few things. Being a metal and wood guy…

many times when a protective film is removed from metal, in stages, it leaves a denotation mark. Think of it as a time stamp. Happens to stainless all the time. Happens to a lessor degree in paint, etc. More so in wood. MFGs have gotten better with there adhesives and the issue is less prevalent. Do not know what they coated the trim with. But it looks to be a surface cleaning issue.

Dealer is right, the rain and water sports… especially the yellow pollen do a number. Best bet… good cleaning and wax. Protect the surface with wax and the. Clean the wax…

the question is…. And I sure it is…. What covers the trims…. What’s its top coat.?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
I now see half of my trims spotting and the others not.. taking to dealer and will post response…. Over time these sports have become permanent … in half of there trims. The letters are fine..
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
Hi, I took my black GV70 to the Gensis car dealership for the first time to get a normal service today, they cleaned my vehicle and took it through the wash, however, when I got home, I noticed water spots around my window trims where it use to be black chrome, and the trim was faded. My vehicle has 2,500 miles on it, and I never had a problem with my trim, until today when they wash it. I don't know if they're using some type of chemical on the trim, but my vehicle looks terrible. I drove back to the dealership to express my concerns, and I also asked them what happened, because my car was fine before they washed it, the guy said they're having a problem with the black chrome. I think I'm going to email genesis Corp. The guy at the dealership told me he was going to put in an order for the window trimming, so they can repair my vehicle, and to wait for a phone call from genesis. I asked him if I needed something in writing he said, no and then he shook my hand. I honestly don't think the hand shake, was good enough, so I'm going to take it to a person higher then him.
 
1 - 20 of 20 Posts
Top