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Has anyone performed their own Oil & Filter Change on the GV80 ? My GV80 has 1,300 miles and I'd rather not wait until the factory recommended 7K or 10K miles on this engine just having been broken in. Thoughts ?
 

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Why not wait till the factory recommended service interval?
Its very common these days that cars don't require nearly as much servicing as they used to.
 

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I know it might be a little "overkill" , but even with the new higher precision engines and machining, I'm prepared to make the extra investment to remove any potential metal fillings which might exist from the breakin process. I mean what is $75 - 100 when I just spent $72K ...
 

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Has anyone performed their own Oil & Filter Change on the GV80 ? My GV80 has 1,300 miles and I'd rather not wait until the factory recommended 7K or 10K miles on this engine just having been broken in. Thoughts ?
Maybe it's just me but I'm going to wait for the recommended oil change intervals. Modern engines are machined much better than engines from decades ago. Plus synthetic oils protect much much better. I'm assuming Genesis uses Mobil 1 Synthetic?? Does anyone know for sure??
 

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I know it might be a little "overkill" , but even with the new higher precision engines and machining, I'm prepared to make the extra investment to remove any potential metal fillings which might exist from the breakin process. I mean what is $75 - 100 when I just spent $72K ...
Is the recommended oil change interval at 7K or 10K?
Does Genesis use Mobile 1 Synthetic?
 

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I seem to recall that its either 8K otr 10K and I'm also mystified why not Mobil 1. . . During the 3 year concierge period, I'm thinking I'll let the dealer use what they choose.
 

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I seem to recall that its either 8K otr 10K and I'm also mystified why not Mobil 1. . . During the 3 year concierge period, I'm thinking I'll let the dealer use what they choose.
That's my intention too, just let them use what they choose and once that period is over I'll switch to Mobile 1 Synthetic.
 

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I know it might be a little "overkill" , but even with the new higher precision engines and machining, I'm prepared to make the extra investment to remove any potential metal fillings which might exist from the breakin process. I mean what is $75 - 100 when I just spent $72K ...
I am undecided on what to do. I agree with you that extra oil changes are a good idea.

My experience comes from BMW which seem to be engineered to last long enough to make it through warranty. But the plastic parts inside seem to fail afterwards and can be very expensive to correct. The GV80 has a new motor so only time will tell on reliability. If wanting to keep beyond 5 years, then extra oil changes can only be a good thing. Although I typically plan on keeping a vehicle for long term, gas engines may be obsolete 5 years from now.

I just want to see how difficult the oil change is. I do really like the fact that it has an oil dipstick which is becoming less common. I actually dont know where the filter is and if the oil has to be drained from bottom or can be sucked out from the top.
 

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I am undecided on what to do. I agree with you that extra oil changes are a good idea.

My experience comes from BMW which seem to be engineered to last long enough to make it through warranty. But the plastic parts inside seem to fail afterwards and can be very expensive to correct. The GV80 has a new motor so only time will tell on reliability. If wanting to keep beyond 5 years, then extra oil changes can only be a good thing. Although I typically plan on keeping a vehicle for long term, gas engines may be obsolete 5 years from now.

I just want to see how difficult the oil change is. I do really like the fact that it has an oil dipstick which is becoming less common. I actually dont know where the filter is and if the oil has to be drained from bottom or can be sucked out from the top.
Funny thing is many from the auto industry believe the ICM will continue to live on but in smaller displacement with either superchargers and or turbo chargers for decades yet. They could be wrong, time will tell.
Another concept is a small ICM to constantly charge a small battery that propels the electric vehicle.
 

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Funny thing is many from the auto industry believe the ICM will continue to live on but in smaller displacement with either superchargers and or turbo chargers for decades yet. They could be wrong, time will tell.
Another concept is a small ICM to constantly charge a small battery that propels the electric vehicle.
Nobody knows for sure but times are a changing. One of my GV80 purchase concerns was that next year they come out with a GV80 hybrid (similar to BMW 45e). Sales told me that Genesis is skipping hybrid and going directly to electric only. I dont think infrastructure is ready (at least where I live) for electric only - but in five years - maybe.

I do think that ICM will be around for a lot more that 5 years but it could be a high gas consumption SUV like the GV80 may be worthless. Which gets back to the original point of is it worth to do extra oil changes to extend life.
 

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Nobody knows for sure but times are a changing. One of my GV80 purchase concerns was that next year they come out with a GV80 hybrid (similar to BMW 45e). Sales told me that Genesis is skipping hybrid and going directly to electric only. I dont think infrastructure is ready (at least where I live) for electric only - but in five years - maybe.

I do think that ICM will be around for a lot more that 5 years but it could be a high gas consumption SUV like the GV80 may be worthless. Which gets back to the original point of is it worth to do extra oil changes to extend life.
I agree, time will tell.
I was reading an article recently as you mentioned the electrical infrastructure nationwide is nowhere close to handling a majority of EV autos. Also many drivers don't have garages, park on streets, ect. Can't have electrical cords all over sidewalks and parking lots so EV's are not realistic with a certain percentage of the population. Also if the US suddenly had a majority of vehicles that were plugging in our grid wouldn't be able to handle it, not even close. The articles I've read could be wrong but their predictions were that it'll be decades before the majority of vehicles are EV.

So your GV80 will have much of its value in 5 years so we need to stay on top of the oil changes!
 

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