[Butch50]

I've seen several adapter boxes that claim to turn wired Android Auto / Apple Carplay head units into wireless. Most of them seem to work with either Android phones or Apple phones, but not both. They also seem limited to certain year/make/model. Has anyone tried an adapter like this in your GV70 or GV80? If you have, does it work?

 

[joeliam]

I did, and they are good at the beginning, and then stop responding or become very slow to. I was so hyped when I got it, past the 30 days, and now it just sits there. It's a shame because I was able to drop the phone on the wireless charger and have a connection.

 

[Butch50]

I did, and they are good at the beginning, and then stop responding or become very slow to. I was so hyped when I got it, past the 30 days, and now it just sits there. It's a shame because I was able to drop the phone on the wireless charger and have a connection.

Which one did you buy?

 

[Fett]

I have been using this one for several months with no issues. It does take about 30 seconds or so to get connected when you first start the car, but other than that it has been flawless

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[Abe]

I received the Motorola MA1 on February 5th, it took 3 tries to set up and has been automatic since.

 

[Roz]

I have been using this one for several months with no issues. It does take about 30 seconds or so to get connected when you first start the car, but other than that it has been flawless

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[Roz]

I have ordered a 2023 GV70. The only issue I have is the wired car play. Have that in my current car and hate it. Do you think this device will work on this new model? The car is beautiful but I hate that I cannot send text messages through the cars system and have to use Car Play.

 

[SGilbert]

I have ordered a 2023 GV70. The only issue I have is the wired car play. Have that in my current car and hate it. Do you think this device will work on this new model? The car is beautiful but I hate that I cannot send text messages through the cars system and have to use Car Play.

I'm quite sure it will, but, in the unlikely event it won't, the mfgr. will have updated it by then.

 

[Roz]

I'm quite sure it will, but, in the unlikely event it won't, the mfgr. will have updated it by then.

i bought the device recommended Above. Set it up in my current car to test. Current car I had to plug in my car to get AirPlay. So incredibly simple. Works perfectly. Should have done before, Looking forward to getting my Genesis even more niw!

 

[Lee'sGenesis]

I have done some testing using the Onkyo Hi-Res audio player over the wireless connection with Carlinkit 3.0/4.0.
The Onkyo app confirms that the wireless connection does NOT conform to the normal CarPlay compressed requirement (AAC-LC).
From testing, it appears that the connection to the phone is "tricked" into using PCM output at 44.1/16bits.
I know this because my entire library is technically 96/24 as downloaded from various music services like (Qobuz).
The Onkyo confirms that the WIRED standard is being used by the phone (CD Quality).

I do NOT know if the Apple Music app will pass the same bitrate, but I use the Onkyo player simultaneously in the car... It appears as the Apple Music Player on the media screen in the vehicle, but I can confirm it's the Onkyo behind the scenes as there are a few bugs showing Apple Music doesn't really know what song is playing, etc....

And even though I'm quite sure the Lexicon system can handle 96/24 (I initially used a USB drive with 2TB's, but USB has a 7K song limit and does not recognize playlists), it played and sounded fantastic.
There is an infinitesimal difference in high frequency and very low frequency (e.g., a little more rolloff at the high end and some type of high pass filter on the low end, indicative of compression down to CD quality) when using wireless CarPlay and CarlinkIt..

But overall, the occasional connection issue

 

[SGilbert]

Lee, I'm not quite sure what you just said, but I get the impression that the CarlinkIt gets your approval.

 

[Lee'sGenesis]

There are some quirks, but yes.
It does.

However, as a musician and self-proclaimed audio file, I can still hear the difference between Bluetooth, WiFi and Wired, and between high quality audio files and lower quality, even on the Lexicon system.
The CarlinkIt is the best solution for the iPhone, but if I wasn't such an Apple nut, I would just use Android over bluetooth because Android allows for hi-res BT capabilities.

This might also help explain somewhat verbosely and VERY oversimplified (LOL): CD Quality = 44.1khz (or 48khz) with a sample size of 16-bits. Which means, it samples 16-bits of data at a speed (fractions of a second) at a speed of of 44.1khz. In general, the larger the sample, and the faster it's sampled equals better quality sound.
Wired CarPlay allows for CD quality, while wireless CarPlay relies on a lower bitrate and compression - quality is sorta ok for most listening.
But - More data, transferred more quickly = better sound.

The CarlinkIT appears to allow the phone and headhunt to assume a wired connection, hence pure CD quality.

So when I say that the GV70 can handle 96khz/24b it is roughly 3-4x the data rate of a standard CD.
So higher numbers = better quality.
The only way to achieve this on the GV70 currently is via a USB stick, with source material recorded at 192/24 or 96/24.....(kHz/bitrate).

Why is this important?
Because lower numbers mean that information contained in the original recording has been thrown away, and with compression (like MP3, M4A files), you start to notice it - singers sounding very shrill, bass sounding rough, sloppy and/or shallow where a bass guitar might sound tinny.

Bluetooth with Android is far better than Bluetooth on iPhone, because the "codec" (aka coder/decoder) can handle higher data rates and better sound.
But both will always sound better on a wired connection because the theoretical possibilities quoted in various bluetooth codecs is only in a lab, under the best conditions and subject to surrounding interference (thanks to the FCC forcing unlicensed bandwidth for low power transmissions).
WiFI connections, however, have a much broader range of speed, dealing with interference better and without compromising the audio signal (for the most part).

Moral of the story - the higher the bit and sample rates, with the least amount of compression, sound the best and the Lexicon system CAN handle close to, or above, master level recordings. At least, 96khz/24bits.

Source: Question: What Bitrate Is Cd Quality? - Disc Production Audio Dynamic CD Replication

Lee, I'm not quite sure what you just said, but I get the impression that the CarlinkIt gets your approval.

 

[Lee'sGenesis]

One more comment: I understand why people want an Android Auto wireless connection, but if all you are really interested in is better sound quality on Android, anything after v10.0 should support lossless bluetooth codec's and work very well in our GV70's... unless I'm missing something.

 

[hoonk]

but I get the impression that the CarlinkIt gets your approval.

After reading Forums and reviews I purchased the Carlinkit 3.0. Got it set up (little bit of a pain, directions were really not complete) was was thrilled. Apple apps without a cord! Fast boot, automatically connects after every time. Problems are with Waze. The display is almost always behind, for instance when the car stops it takes a few seconds for the display to catch up and the speed indication to be 0 and show where you really are. Also after 20 minutes or so, it disconnects and won't connect again until it is power cycled (unplug and replug the usb) Kind of a pain to lose the display every 20 minutes of a trip. Have to mention there is no delay with apple play hardwired car to phone.

Don't use it for music so can't comment on that (use sxm from the car)

It might be defective, don't know but It's going back to Amazon and am going to try their carlinkit 4.0.

 

[Lee'sGenesis]

After reading Forums and reviews I purchased the Carlinkit 3.0. Got it set up (little bit of a pain, directions were really not complete) was was thrilled. Apple apps without a cord! Fast boot, automatically connects after every time. Problems are with Waze. The display is almost always behind, for instance when the car stops it takes a few seconds for the display to catch up and the speed indication to be 0 and show where you really are. Also after 20 minutes or so, it disconnects and won't connect again until it is power cycled (unplug and replug the usb) Kind of a pain to lose the display every 20 minutes of a trip. Have to mention there is no delay with apple play hardwired car to phone.

Don't use it for music so can't comment on that (use sxm from the car)

It might be defective, don't know but It's going back to Amazon and am going to try their carlinkit 4.0.

Did you try any of the advanced settings - like the GPS one?
I have had the 3.0 and the 4.0 and both have random, quick "dropouts" in music play, but never disconnects...
My problem is that it doesn't always connect and when it doesn't, it's a pain to try and connect....
Their support is essentially useless because it takes them days to respond, and you need to provide them proof you purchased it from them (even if from Amazon) because I'm assuming there are copycats?
I mean it's from China, so you gotta assume like 1 company makes it and 10+ others sell it under different "Brands"...

 

[hoonk]

Yes

Did you try any of the advanced settings - like the GPS one?

Yes, from the manufacturers FAQ on their website - I tried the suggestions for slow waze/google which was "Turning off gps" in the 192.168.50.2 connection. That made Waze almost not respond at all. The screen was stuck miles sometimes from where I was. Also when twisting the knob to move the cursor around (gv70) while using waze (to choose a different app for instance) - cursor movement is delayed - to the point you think it's not responding. Does seem to catch up - but there is no lag wired. I'm using a iphone8 - have not tried it with my wifes 13 - might be a better wireless connection with that.

It's a few days until my return window ends - it's going back to Amazon.

 

[Lee'sGenesis]

Yes


Yes, from the manufacturers FAQ on their website - I tried the suggestions for slow waze/google which was "Turning off gps" in the 192.168.50.2 connection. That made Waze almost not respond at all. The screen was stuck miles sometimes from where I was. Also when twisting the knob to move the cursor around (gv70) while using waze (to choose a different app for instance) - cursor movement is delayed - to the point you think it's not responding. Does seem to catch up - but there is no lag wired. I'm using a iphone8 - have not tried it with my wifes 13 - might be a better wireless connection with that.

It's a few days until my return window ends - it's going back to Amazon.

The older iPhone Qualcom chips were NOT good at simultaneously transmitting/receiving as is required with CarPlay.... You might try decreasing the delay (default at 1500 ms's). I turned mine down to 350ms. It will most certainly cause more music dropouts, however, WAZE and cursor control will be more responsive. And definitely turn off the GPS setting in the Carlinkit settings page if you are using WAVE. I don't use CarPlay for anything other than Music, so I basically turn off anything that might impact performance of the device, like GPS.

 

[Lee'sGenesis]

The older iPhone Qualcom chips were NOT good at simultaneously transmitting/receiving as is required with CarPlay.... You might try decreasing the delay (default at 1500 ms's). I turned mine down to 350ms. It will most certainly cause more music dropouts, however, WAZE and cursor control will be more responsive. And definitely turn off the GPS setting in the Carlinkit settings page if you are using WAVE. I don't use CarPlay for anything other than Music, so I basically turn off anything that might impact performance of the device, like GPS.

Also, there is some combination of SYNC and BKRD that will assist with lag/delays.... However, the reliability of AutoConnect becomes a problem.

For me, I love the device with it's limitations, but it's only temporary for me.
Once Genesis fixes it's USB Media playback limitations, I'm going back to memory cards so that I can play music at full bitrates.
The beauty of the Lexicon system is that they use some pretty great DAC's in their system, so it's almost a waste to play music at no better than CD quality....
And I have yet to figure out whether the iPhone is actually tricked into thinking this is a wired connection, because wireless CarPlay reduces music quality even further....

 

[hoonk]

The older iPhone Qualcom chips were NOT good at simultaneously transmitting/receiving as is required with CarPlay.... You might try decreasing the delay (default at 1500 ms's). I turned mine down to 350ms. It will most certainly cause more music dropouts, however, WAZE and cursor control will be more responsive. And definitely turn off the GPS setting in the Carlinkit settings page if you are using WAVE. I don't use CarPlay for anything other than Music, so I basically turn off anything that might impact performance of the device, like GPS.

Thanks - i will try that on the 4.0 version when it comes. It is nice to have wireless carplay. Only have to charge (on trips the battery goes pretty quickly) and not have to plug in.

 

[hoonk]

Thanks - i will try that on the 4.0 version when it comes.

Update - tried the carlinkit 4.0. Got it set it, and updated the firmware. Connected automatically every time - very nice. But - Still has same waze delay, and delay when turning the knob to change to another tile. Very annoying - you expect the cursor to move when you turn the knob (or use the touch screen) but it is frozen. If using gps IMHO it is important to know where you are and what direction you are pointed - not just within 4 blocks on a map! Am using an iphone 8, maybe that's the problem - but waze and screen movements work normally hard wired. Didn't use the 4.0 long enough to see if it would reboot on it's own every 20 minutes or so - Sent it back to Amazon.