Next Generation GV80 To Be Electrified
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I read all these car companies are going to stop making gas cars in 4, 5 or6 years or so like they say they are, and if I owned a car company, I would let the other companies invest all their money in the electric vehicles and pump out as many gas cars as I could. because nobody else will be selling them.
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If the cost of gas keeps going up they'll have 10 years worth of unsold ice cars sitting on their lots to sell when they stop producing them.I read all these car companies are going to stop making gas cars in 4, 5 or6 years or so like they say they are, and if I owned a car company, I would let the other companies invest all their money in the electric vehicles and pump out as many gas cars as I could. because nobody else will be selling them.
Then they better get their butts in gear and get a REAL charging infrastructure built. I know a ton of people live in a world of go to work and then come home to plug their vehicle in. Does ANYONE know or care about the people who drive around the country for a living, drive to campgrounds around the country or live in apartments with no way to charge a vehicle? I'd be happy to make my next vehicle an electric one, but I don't see the infrastructure anywhere near adequate for 10-15 years.
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Yes there are a lot of obstacles to overcome. Even condos. A lot of them do not have garages nor driveways, but just a common parking lot. Also, the drain in the electrical infrastructure if a lot of people get these cars. Doing away with coal, gas, oil and nuclear generation plants won't help either. Hopefully someday we will get there.
But one more thing that scares me. The government has complete control over electric companies and what we pay for electricity. They have no such controls over pricing in the oil industry other than taxing it to death. (we pay the taxes, not the oil company as they pass it along to us) Some might thing that is a good thing, but knowing the government, it is not.
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Not sure where your placing the bullshit, on me for saying that or just the fact that the government can do that.
If it is on me, google it. If a utility wants to raise rates, they need to get permission from government, usually the state where the utility serves. Sometimes multi level. Well, at least wherever I have lived in the US.
The price of gasoline, has no such regulation... Yet.....
And that is why the price changes from day to day.
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Rate hikes are built into their contracts with a guaranteed rate of return. If costs go up, rates go up. They have to get approval to raise rates above what they are already "entitled" to. Costs control the rates. The margin is set by the contract. Hardly the big bad gov "controlling what we pay".
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Bottom line, the government decides if they get the hike. You look at it one way, I look at it another.
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LOL, ok. Kinda like the last election?
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I agree, not much infrastructure. That’s why I would like to see hydrogen electric which produces electricity as you need it. Not stored in batteries which are filthy to produce and ZERO strain on the countries already strained electrical grid. Toyota and Yamaha have produced an internal combustion that runs on hydrogen gas. This will work great for pulling loads. I don’t believe batteries are the answer. With the current technology.
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With my lifestyle now that I am retires, I could probably get away with a electric vehicle, most of the time. But if I wanted to take a long trip, it would be a pain. If they get those batteries to charge in 15 minutes, then they will have something.
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Amen to that… 15 minute charge with a 500 mile range. Until then you’ll need to own two cars.. But check out the Toyota Rave4 Prime or the Hyundai Santa Fe Plug in models.. gives you about 45 miles on battery which would work great around town and the gas internal combustion engine for those trips to see the grand kids… Best of both worlds (at this time) at least I think….
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At least one maker offers several uses a year of a gas engine model for long trips. Otherwise you can make a legitimate case that renting a car to use for a long trip is cheaper (long run) than putting several thousand miles extra on your regular car.
My just retired sister has always loved Mercedes convertibles. I've shown her some screaming deals on excellent examples but she too worries about "what if I want to take a trip?" despite having plenty of money to rent a car once or twice a year (she flies everywhere).
My wifes youngest is 24 and 2 years out of college but wife still needs a minivan "just in case".
GV80 was supposed to be a reward for 15 years of minivan.
Now she wants it back (a new one)
People.
(Nissan Ariya on order)
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Everyone seems to be coming to this same realization. Hybrid, preferably plug in hybrid.
If I could have found a Toyota Sienna hybrid (all of them are hybrid) to buy a couple of months ago I would have. Their ubiquitous 2.5l 4cyl with two E motors yields 250ish hp and 35mpg combined rating. Pretty awesome for a big vehicle.
But none to be had for less than 4-5k markup. blah on that
Chryslers plug in Pacifica sounds like the holy grail. Plug in with 30ish miles of E range, enough for wife to round trip work and never use the gas!! But, in the winter the motor runs ALL THE TIME to make the heater work. Cna't turn it off.... Soooo totally defeats xx% of its utility forcing you to run the gas motor. .... which IS a decent enough 6cyl but mated to a hideous old school droning cvt in gas mode. When the gas model gets a sweet as honey 10sp tranny.
And then theres their poor reliability ratings. blahhhhh
Now i want the best of both, a plug in Sienna! only rumors at this point, but seems a likely direction at some point.
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