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Has anyone been able to place a bona fide order for a 2.5L model with deposit anywhere in the USA yet? Concierge and/or dealer "interest" doesn't count. I mean a real order with a delivery date. TIA. 馃嚭馃嚥
 

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Has anyone been able to place a bona fide order for a 2.5L model with deposit anywhere in the USA yet? Concierge and/or dealer "interest" doesn't count. I mean a real order with a delivery date. TIA. 馃嚭馃嚥
My dealer put in an order for me today. Really no idea when to expect it. Could be a year, could be a month. I think like most other cars you just get put on a wait list until the model you want is available and no one else has a request put in before you. I don't think you can actually order anything, just reserve.
 

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My dealer put in an order for me today. Really no idea when to expect it. Could be a year, could be a month. I think like most other cars you just get put on a wait list until the model you want is available and no one else has a request put in before you. I don't think you can actually order anything, just reserve.
Question - are all the features and options the exact same on the 2.5T and 3.5T Sport Prestige package. I know the seat covering is slightly different. Thx!
 

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Question - are all the features and options the exact same on the 2.5T and 3.5T Sport Prestige package. I know the seat covering is slightly different. Thx!
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There are differences between the two for sure. Currently, and I hope this changes, the 2.5T doesn鈥檛 get the HUD (available on RDX and Q5 at the same price point) or the 3D digital cluster (I can live without). And yes, the seating surfaces are different. Also, no suede headliner. Didn鈥檛 know I wanted that until I test drove the 3.5T Sport Prestige.
 

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I can't answer that, but I'm sure you can find out on the Genesis website.
Normally I'd agree, but the Genesis site is so lacking in details (and hard to navigate) I'm not sure it's safe to assume. That said, I found information hidden on www.genesis.com/worldwide/en/main.html (Worldwide) that I couldn't find on genesis.com/ca/en (genesis.ca) or genesis.com/us/en so don't overlook that. Only problem is that it doesn't have the specific models/trim levels that I need, for example we don't have a "2.5 gas turbo sport package" which is the only choice other than "2.5 gas turbo" for seeing the specs. But it's better than nothing, and .ca isn't much better than nothing if you want details. Not unique to Genesis, VW.ca has no detailed specs either.
 

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My dealer told me 3 months to order one in the Los Angeles area. I test drove a base 2.5T yesterday. They had two four cylinders in stock and a whopping 27 V6 GV70鈥檚. I drove both the 2.5T and 3.5TT and thought the 2.5T felt torquier around town than the V6.
 

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They had two four cylinders in stock and a whopping 27 V6 GV70鈥檚.
Did they offer any incentive to take one from stock? Not a 2.5 presumably but a 3.5? AFAIK there are no 2.5 up here, not even to drive, and I wasn't thrilled by the 3.5's feel on a bumpy road (maybe that's the 40R21 tires) nor the fuel consumption. Though I suppose a couple of grand off the 3.5 would help pay for the extra gas. :)
 

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Did they offer any incentive to take one from stock? Not a 2.5 presumably but a 3.5? AFAIK there are no 2.5
I drove a base 2.5T in red. They said that they could make me a deal on it but I doubt it would be much more than maybe $1k off if I financed at 1.9% which I think anyone can get. I鈥檓 only interested in a few colors and red isn鈥榯 one of them. Truecar is showing GV70鈥檚 going at MSRP in my area which I believe. I can鈥檛 justify spending $11k more on the V6 after driving both.

I drove a V6 with 21鈥檚 and the base 4 cylinder with 18鈥檚. The ride quality was significantly better on the 18鈥檚 on bumpy roads. I鈥檓 planning to get the 19鈥檚 on the Advanced trim. The tires are still pretty beefy 55 aspect ratio on the 19鈥檚.
 

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Thanks for the comments on 2.5 vs 3.5. The 2.5 is in the same kind of power category as the 260HP Turbo Outback (14.6HP/100kg), or my old Turbo Forester at 14.4HP/100kg, for that matter. My non-Turbo Outback is good enough, and a new one would be fine with 182HP (10.9HP/100kg). I just want more. But 300HP in the 2.5T (15.9HP/100kg) feels like enough to me, and the 3.5's 375HP (18.6HP/100kg) is overkill.

I realize my attitude toward the 3.5 is probably what most people would say about the cars I do want. I own that. :)

BTW the "HP/100kg" is just something I made up when I started capturing specs in a spreadsheet, to get a sense of how responsive a vehicle would be. It's not necessarily meaningful in terms of nimbleness, handling, etc., as my 2004 Forester XT would have that all over a 2022 Outback XT, even with slightly less HP (of course I'm using the number from before I applied a Cobb Accessport to it :).

Hoping I can get into a 2.5T GV70 soon, and I'll probably put my name down on one. Not sure about trim or colours, I like the sound of the Prestige (don't know the US equivalent, top of the 2.5s). But I wish I could get some of the advanced features in a lower trim. Which trim and colour did you prefer?

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Top trim in the US is Sport Prestige but that comes with 21鈥 wheels and I鈥檇 prefer the 19鈥檚 for better ride quality. I鈥檓 a bit bummed you have to get Sport Prestige (top trim) in the 2.5T to get Highway Assist II which does the auto lane changes on the highway. Top three colors for me are barossa burgundy, himalayan gray or saville silver.
 

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Thanks for that. I guess they're following Hyundai brand's lead of mixing the options between the 2 countries. At least they don't reuse the names for different levels the way Subaru does sometimes. :( They call them trim levels here, and in the case of Genesis, they seem to correspond to packages in US.

We have 4 trim levels of 2.5T: Select, Advanced, Advanced Plus, Prestige, and 2 of 3.5T: Sport, Sport Plus. As with (say) the Hyundai Tucson, almost no (or no) options within a trim level.

Sometimes stuff is pushed down a level vs US though, e.g. only the Select has leatherette seating, everything else has some kind of leather. And that Highway Assist II is on everything, right from the Select. Only 19" on 2.5T (except 18" on Select), only 21" on 3.5T, though I guess one could splurge and just buy 21" aftermarket.

The list of 6 trim levels is here if anyone's interested: Login - Genesis at Home (you might have to give a postal code, you can use M5W 1E6 for example).
 

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Has anyone been able to place a bona fide order for a 2.5L model with deposit anywhere in the USA yet? Concierge and/or dealer "interest" doesn't count. I mean a real order with a delivery date. TIA. 馃嚭馃嚥

My dealer put an order in for me last summer. He specified exactly what I wanted. Delivery date keeps getting pushed back. Latest response (last week) from Genesis about date was "no response."
 

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I have a 2.5T Sport Prestige, White, with Red inside. I traded my 5 year old Cadillac XT5 Premium Luxury with the electronic shocks and 19" with Michelin. I bought the XT5 for the smooth ride. I looked at GV70 because of electronic shocks (which only is on the 3.5). But first I drove the 2.5 sport. It is very smooth And it does not have the Electronic shocks. If you pick the proper shocks and springs, I guess the Electronics aren't needed. It could be the total suspension design from the G70. Whatever, the 2.5 Prestige rides as smooth as the XT5. But re the 21 wheels with Michelin, the rims are 10" wide which provides a great stable base. I expected to find the tires noisy on some surfaces- not so. I figured I would feel big jolts- not so. But the stability the GV70 has over the XT5 is unreal. The XT5 felt like I was driving a pickup compared to this GV70 sport car feel. Get the Sport model, it is fun. And quiet when you want and fast and great feeling in curves. I was also surprised the smoothness both in vibration and power delivery from the 2.5. Its a good powerplant and the Stop/Go is not annoying. I am loving the Lane Keeping, this is as close as it gets to self driving car for now. It really removes stress on Bay Area California freeways with the Adaptive Cruise on. It even creeps for you in stop/go traffic- the 2017 XT5 would not. Stress relievers.
Back to the 10" Wx 21"D rims. They have but 5 spokes with gaps big enough to get your hand in there easy. Very easy and fast to clean these rims. The XT5 had ~12 spokes, each had to be cleaned full of nooks.

The Sport also has the Ergo seat with the adjustable bolsters (side cushions). I drive with the car in ECO or COMFORT normally. And without changing anything other than stepping on the gas and making some moves in traffic, the bolsters will pump up and hold me from side G forces, Then when I slow back down, the bolsters relax back to normal. The Genesis website doesn't tell you that. A wild test drive might. Its really cool.

Drawbacks to GV70 compared to similar length XT5. (1) GV70 doesn't have door Auto Lock. The XT5 locked its doors if no key fob was inside when you got out. I got used to that. On the GV70, you must touch a dot on the door handle or the car sits unlocked. (2) There is not near as much underfloor storage. GV70 has a spare tire. XT5 no. I do like the spare more than the storage, but they could have thought about giving extra room underneath.(3) Wireless Android and Wireless Carplay is in a Hyundai but not a Genesis? Whats up with that? I am working to solve that. We shall see if I can find a Wireless adapter gizmo that works. I have one on order. (4) NO Cargo cover on a $50K car with all the option boxes checked? Cheap skates.

Now I did go find the Hyundai Tuscon 2017 has the same roof rails and measurements so you can buy roof racks from Amazon for <$100 and they fit and hold on just fine.I went down to the dealership with my tape measure and took pictures of their rails and mine.
And Lamin-X sells a plastic film cut to fit the Headlights for $49. And I got a Mirror kit to add film to protect the mirrors from them for $29. I got 6" wide strips of 3M film in a roll from Amazon for the rocker panels for~$35. And a 10" wide roll for the rear rocker area and behind the tires.
I am waiting to find the mud guards for the fenders in the USA. The rear looks exceptionally vulnerable. So far I only find them for sale in Korea. $88 for the part but $44 for shipping on Ebay.

Bottom line, go do some serious drive tests if you are unsure about the 21"D x10"W rims with the Michelin. They are one of the best upgrades I can find for this car. They are great and probably helped make Motortrend pick this SUV of the year. Those MT guys like cars that handle stop and turn. Get a SUV sports car- GV70 Prestige.
 

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Question - are all the features and options the exact same on the 2.5T and 3.5T Sport Prestige package. I know the seat covering is slightly different. Thx!
I know the other guy said they鈥檙e were seating differences but the ONLY differences between the 2.5 and 3.5 prestige packages is the engine size and the adjustable suspension. Only the 3.5 gets the adjustable suspension. Seating surfaces are the same. Suede inserts are also present in the 2.5L.
 

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Thanks for that. I guess they're following Hyundai brand's lead of mixing the options between the 2 countries. At least they don't reuse the names for different levels the way Subaru does sometimes. :( They call them trim levels here, and in the case of Genesis, they seem to correspond to packages in US.

We have 4 trim levels of 2.5T: Select, Advanced, Advanced Plus, Prestige, and 2 of 3.5T: Sport, Sport Plus. As with (say) the Hyundai Tucson, almost no (or no) options within a trim level.

Sometimes stuff is pushed down a level vs US though, e.g. only the Select has leatherette seating, everything else has some kind of leather. And that Highway Assist II is on everything, right from the Select. Only 19" on 2.5T (except 18" on Select), only 21" on 3.5T, though I guess one could splurge and just buy 21" aftermarket.

The list of 6 trim levels is here if anyone's interested: Login - Genesis at Home (you might have to give a postal code, you can use M5W 1E6 for example).
Little inaccurate. The 3.5 does have a prestige package. And both the 2.5 and 3.5 have the 21鈥 wheels with the prestige package.
 

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In the US, 3.5T prestige also offers 4 different interior color combinations (black, vanilla, red, blue), while the 2.5T prestige only offer 2 (red, blue). No HUD on the 2.5T at any level.

I know the Canadian packages are somewhat different.
 

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In the US, 3.5T prestige also offers 4 different interior color combinations (black, vanilla, red, blue), while the 2.5T prestige only offer 2 (red, blue). No HUD on the 2.5T at any level.

I know the Canadian packages are somewhat different.
2.5 prestige has Black and vanilla beige also as interiors. The red and blue are actually almost impossible to find for the 2.5.
 

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2.5 prestige has Black and vanilla beige also as interiors. The red and blue are actually almost impossible to find for the 2.5.
Interesting. I made up a spreadsheet of all the possibilities a few weeks ago, from the Build a Genesis web site and the Vanilla nor Black were available on the 2.5T Sport Prestige, only Red and Blue.

Now today, the Black, Blue and Red show as available on the 2.5T Sport Prestige, but never is the Vanilla shown on any exterior color example, at least in the USA.

I wonder if the choices available are being changed by Genesis, based on inventory available or maybe based on what is selling or has sold?
 
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