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Stumbled on this on the Genesis.ca FB page. It's a promotion with TSC (The Shopping Channel, renamed Today's Shopping Choice, Americans think Home Shopping Network HSN). Buy a registration fee from TSC.ca for $250 (or 4 equal payments of $62.50) between Jul 7-Jul 15/21. Then reserve a GV70 (I think that's what "enter into a purchase agreement" means) by Aug 15/21. If your Reservation results in a Purchase, you get:
  • $750 TSC gift card
  • $1250 accessories credit with Genesis
  • a GV70
At first I thought this was a $250 refundable deposit (instead of $1000, which the dealer told me), but the way it's worded it sounds like the $250 is refunded Aug 15 whether you make a reservation or not. It does say "Reservation Fee will be held until the customer enters into a purchase agreement ... or until August 15, 2021 at 11:59 pm. ET, whichever occurs first." and "All Reservation Fees will be refunded in full after August 15, 2021." so maybe they'll still want the $1000 refundable deposit, and the $250 is just a trigger for the $2000 in overpriced freebies.

TSC (or HSN in US, not saying they're doing it just providing an equivalent) would seem a strange place to be promoting a $50K vehicle, but if it works why not? If I'm reading it right, that the $250 is separate from a $1000 deposit when you reserve, I'd be tempted to do this to get the $2000 in "freebies", even if I only assign (say) $1000 value to them. Kind of like going through an affiliate site (e.g. eBates.com or TopCashBack.com) rather than directly, if it gets something in return.

Any thoughts? Would anyone consider doing this ("I bought my new Genesis GV70 on The Shopping Channel")? Am I missing something do you think?
 

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Stumbled on this on the Genesis.ca FB page. It's a promotion with TSC (The Shopping Channel, renamed Today's Shopping Choice, Americans think Home Shopping Network HSN). Buy a registration fee from TSC.ca for $250 (or 4 equal payments of $62.50) between Jul 7-Jul 15/21. Then reserve a GV70 (I think that's what "enter into a purchase agreement" means) by Aug 15/21. If your Reservation results in a Purchase, you get:
  • $750 TSC gift card
  • $1250 accessories credit with Genesis
  • a GV70
At first I thought this was a $250 refundable deposit (instead of $1000, which the dealer told me), but the way it's worded it sounds like the $250 is refunded Aug 15 whether you make a reservation or not. It does say "Reservation Fee will be held until the customer enters into a purchase agreement ... or until August 15, 2021 at 11:59 pm. ET, whichever occurs first." and "All Reservation Fees will be refunded in full after August 15, 2021." so maybe they'll still want the $1000 refundable deposit, and the $250 is just a trigger for the $2000 in overpriced freebies.

TSC (or HSN in US, not saying they're doing it just providing an equivalent) would seem a strange place to be promoting a $50K vehicle, but if it works why not? If I'm reading it right, that the $250 is separate from a $1000 deposit when you reserve, I'd be tempted to do this to get the $2000 in "freebies", even if I only assign (say) $1000 value to them. Kind of like going through an affiliate site (e.g. eBates.com or TopCashBack.com) rather than directly, if it gets something in return.

Any thoughts? Would anyone consider doing this ("I bought my new Genesis GV70 on The Shopping Channel")? Am I missing something do you think?
Hi, I stumbled across the same promotion and called to verify the terms the offer with my local Genesis dealer.Funny enough, they initially weren't aware of the promo and followed up with head office...sure enough it is a legitimate promo and Genesiss currently isn't providing any incentives with the purchase of the GV70. Given I'm interested in purchasing one I may take advantage of the deal seeing the reservation fee is refundable regardless of purchase or not. Are you interested in owning a GV70?
 

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Thanks, yes I'm looking at the GV70, but not too interested in the 3.5TT. Drove it a couple of weeks ago (because it's all there is) and it feels like excessive power for its own sake (as I posted above, yes the 260HP Outback or 277HP Santa Fe are also excessive, but somehow I can accept myself wanting that :) ). In this case I could be comfortable buying 300HP GV70 where I might not be comfortable buying 375HP. I could surprise myself.

Another factor is the 3.5TT had an uncomfortably rough ride over a local street in moderate repair. I suspect the 21" wheels (255/40 tires) contributed to that, and I hope a 235/55 would be tolerable. I have 225/60R17 now, and I haven't found the trend to skinnier tires attractive; that they'd also be less comfortable would just be s*** icing on the t*** cake. :(

The GV70 2.5T is a vehicle where each trim level gives a few things I want, it's almost like they do it on purpose. ;) But that's not true of every vehicle we've considered, typically I look at the features gained going from #2 to top tier and I'm scratching my head wondering why I would (e.g. Subaru Forester, Acura RDX). But in this case, even going from Advanced Plus to Prestige, I can see features I'd want (willing to pay for them is another question, but that's going to be the case with a GV70 period -- OTOH, "in for a penny, in for a pound", or as they say about yachts, "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it" as I wonder what insurance on this thing will cost). It's interesting that the Acura RDX seems to top out at C$8K LESS than the GV70 2.5T (though gas will cost slightly more).

Local dealer says they may have 2.5T on the lot by end of July for test driving. Given the timeframe of this TSC offer, I'm thinking it's worth paying a refundable $250 by Jul 15, for the right to pay a refundable $1000 by Aug 15, to order a vehicle for delivery who-knows-when. Hopefully I can test drive a 2.5T and pick a colour combination before Aug 15 (or I'll order anyway, and cancel the order if I dislike the vehicle on a test drive). I'm not totally surprised they weren't aware of the promotion, in some ways I think it could be entirely TSC's. In the Affiliate business, apart from ordinary Cashback on a purchase there's also "Bounty", where the affiliate gets a fixed amount for beating the bushes for a new customer. eBates (or TCB, GCR) will typically pass some of that on, e.g. "$15 for signing up for Amazon Prime" would to me be a Bounty. Perhaps TSC (or Rogers, who owns TSC) has an arrangement with Genesis or Hyundai and gets a (say) $4000 bounty for each referral who buys a vehicle, then they pass on half of that in the form of TSC and Genesis credits. I wonder if anyone else out there is offering a referral incentive to buy a GV70.
 

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Thanks, yes I'm looking at the GV70, but not too interested in the 3.5TT. Drove it a couple of weeks ago (because it's all there is) and it feels like excessive power for its own sake (as I posted above, yes the 260HP Outback or 277HP Santa Fe are also excessive, but somehow I can accept myself wanting that :) ). In this case I could be comfortable buying 300HP GV70 where I might not be comfortable buying 375HP. I could surprise myself.

Another factor is the 3.5TT had an uncomfortably rough ride over a local street in moderate repair. I suspect the 21" wheels (255/40 tires) contributed to that, and I hope a 235/55 would be tolerable. I have 225/60R17 now, and I haven't found the trend to skinnier tires attractive; that they'd also be less comfortable would just be s*** icing on the t*** cake. :(

The GV70 2.5T is a vehicle where each trim level gives a few things I want, it's almost like they do it on purpose. ;) But that's not true of every vehicle we've considered, typically I look at the features gained going from #2 to top tier and I'm scratching my head wondering why I would (e.g. Subaru Forester, Acura RDX). But in this case, even going from Advanced Plus to Prestige, I can see features I'd want (willing to pay for them is another question, but that's going to be the case with a GV70 period -- OTOH, "in for a penny, in for a pound", or as they say about yachts, "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it" as I wonder what insurance on this thing will cost). It's interesting that the Acura RDX seems to top out at C$8K LESS than the GV70 2.5T (though gas will cost slightly more).

Local dealer says they may have 2.5T on the lot by end of July for test driving. Given the timeframe of this TSC offer, I'm thinking it's worth paying a refundable $250 by Jul 15, for the right to pay a refundable $1000 by Aug 15, to order a vehicle for delivery who-knows-when. Hopefully I can test drive a 2.5T and pick a colour combination before Aug 15 (or I'll order anyway, and cancel the order if I dislike the vehicle on a test drive). I'm not totally surprised they weren't aware of the promotion, in some ways I think it could be entirely TSC's. In the Affiliate business, apart from ordinary Cashback on a purchase there's also "Bounty", where the affiliate gets a fixed amount for beating the bushes for a new customer. eBates (or TCB, GCR) will typically pass some of that on, e.g. "$15 for signing up for Amazon Prime" would to me be a Bounty. Perhaps TSC (or Rogers, who owns TSC) has an arrangement with Genesis or Hyundai and gets a (say) $4000 bounty for each referral who buys a vehicle, then they pass on half of that in the form of TSC and Genesis credits. I wonder if anyone else out there is offering a referral incentive to buy a GV70.
Thanks, yes I'm looking at the GV70, but not too interested in the 3.5TT. Drove it a couple of weeks ago (because it's all there is) and it feels like excessive power for its own sake (as I posted above, yes the 260HP Outback or 277HP Santa Fe are also excessive, but somehow I can accept myself wanting that :) ). In this case I could be comfortable buying 300HP GV70 where I might not be comfortable buying 375HP. I could surprise myself.

Another factor is the 3.5TT had an uncomfortably rough ride over a local street in moderate repair. I suspect the 21" wheels (255/40 tires) contributed to that, and I hope a 235/55 would be tolerable. I have 225/60R17 now, and I haven't found the trend to skinnier tires attractive; that they'd also be less comfortable would just be s*** icing on the t*** cake. :(

The GV70 2.5T is a vehicle where each trim level gives a few things I want, it's almost like they do it on purpose. ;) But that's not true of every vehicle we've considered, typically I look at the features gained going from #2 to top tier and I'm scratching my head wondering why I would (e.g. Subaru Forester, Acura RDX). But in this case, even going from Advanced Plus to Prestige, I can see features I'd want (willing to pay for them is another question, but that's going to be the case with a GV70 period -- OTOH, "in for a penny, in for a pound", or as they say about yachts, "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it" as I wonder what insurance on this thing will cost). It's interesting that the Acura RDX seems to top out at C$8K LESS than the GV70 2.5T (though gas will cost slightly more).

Local dealer says they may have 2.5T on the lot by end of July for test driving. Given the timeframe of this TSC offer, I'm thinking it's worth paying a refundable $250 by Jul 15, for the right to pay a refundable $1000 by Aug 15, to order a vehicle for delivery who-knows-when. Hopefully I can test drive a 2.5T and pick a colour combination before Aug 15 (or I'll order anyway, and cancel the order if I dislike the vehicle on a test drive). I'm not totally surprised they weren't aware of the promotion, in some ways I think it could be entirely TSC's. In the Affiliate business, apart from ordinary Cashback on a purchase there's also "Bounty", where the affiliate gets a fixed amount for beating the bushes for a new customer. eBates (or TCB, GCR) will typically pass some of that on, e.g. "$15 for signing up for Amazon Prime" would to me be a Bounty. Perhaps TSC (or Rogers, who owns TSC) has an arrangement with Genesis or Hyundai and gets a (say) $4000 bounty for each referral who buys a vehicle, then they pass on half of that in the form of TSC and Genesis credits. I wonder if anyone else out there is offering a referral incentive to buy a GV70.
I had the same experience with the test drive of the 3.5TT and feel the 2.5TT with the 2nd trim level (Advanced) will suit my needs. My local dealer said the 2.5’s should arrive between September-October however, with the previous ore-orders and now the TSC promo registrants who knows which list will take precedence in receiving the vehicle? This will be my first experience with pre-ordering a vehicle and there appears to be possibilities of delays in shipment of them. As we already have an SUV I may opt for a G70 but the GV70 keeps calling my name! I am going to purchase the TSC offer as there’s nothing to lose given it’s refundable after August 15th. This way I can still weigh my options and not miss out in the event I choose to purchase. I haven’t heard of any other offers/promos.
Other than the Outback and Santa Fe are there any other SUV’s in your radar? I was looking at the Mercedes GLC300 but can’t justify the price
 

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I had the same experience with the test drive of the 3.5TT and feel the 2.5TT with the 2nd trim level (Advanced) will suit my needs. My local dealer said the 2.5’s should arrive between September-October however, with the previous ore-orders and now the TSC promo registrants who knows which list will take precedence in receiving the vehicle? This will be my first experience with pre-ordering a vehicle and there appears to be possibilities of delays in shipment of them. As we already have an SUV I may opt for a G70 but the GV70 keeps calling my name! I am going to purchase the TSC offer as there’s nothing to lose given it’s refundable after August 15th. This way I can still weigh my options and not miss out in the event I choose to purchase. I haven’t heard of any other offers/promos.
Other than the Outback and Santa Fe are there any other SUV’s in your radar? I was looking at the Mercedes GLC300 but can’t justify the price
Welcome to the forum @Dodd! The only other competitor I'd consider that isn't German would be a Lexus NX or RX. But that really depends on if you like Lexus' styling.

That Shopping Channel deal is really interesting. Kind of reminds me of the Costco deals that Ford does sometimes. If there's no other deal to be had with the deal then it's not bad for some free accessories.
 

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I had the same experience with the test drive of the 3.5TT and feel the 2.5TT with the 2nd trim level (Advanced) will suit my needs. My local dealer said the 2.5’s should arrive between September-October however, with the previous ore-orders and now the TSC promo registrants who knows which list will take precedence in receiving the vehicle? This will be my first experience with pre-ordering a vehicle and there appears to be possibilities of delays in shipment of them. As we already have an SUV I may opt for a G70 but the GV70 keeps calling my name! I am going to purchase the TSC offer as there’s nothing to lose given it’s refundable after August 15th. This way I can still weigh my options and not miss out in the event I choose to purchase. I haven’t heard of any other offers/promos.
Other than the Outback and Santa Fe are there any other SUV’s in your radar? I was looking at the Mercedes GLC300 but can’t justify the price
What driving conditions did you test it under? Did you try overtaking other vehicles and even speeding up when merging onto highways? Curious to know your take on its get-up-and-go power.
 

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Deadline for the TSC offer is Thu Jul 15 at 1159pm ET. I went ahead and did the TSC offer, I figure it's worth the risk even if there's only a small chance I'll buy a 2.5T. I don't really know how likely that is, as without knowing the delivery times it's impossible to predict. At some point I'll narrow it down either to some other vehicle I prefer, or the GV70 and something else 2nd (the latter can only happen after I drive a 2.5T). If delivery is slow enough I could possibly end up getting my 2nd choice. But that will happen either way, and $1250 in Genesis accessories (plus $750 in TSC credit) is better than nothing.

Paid the full $250 to TSC, I debated taking their "4 payments of $62.50" offer, I don't really understand that because they can only have taken 1 or 2 payments when it's time to refund. But I didn't want another complication. And the offer says in one place you get the $250 back when you sign a purchase agreement (which I assume is the $1000-refundable request to get one -- does anyone know for sure?), or Aug 15, whichever comes first. It also says all will be refunded after Aug 15.

feel the 2.5TT with the 2nd trim level (Advanced) will suit my needs.
On the 2.5T, I think the Advanced would be my minimum, and each of the better trim levels gives me at least 1 thing I'd like (not considering if I want to pay for that, but we're keeping that out of the equation until such time as we know GV70 or something comparably priced is top choice -- only then we'll decide whether to splurge on GV70 (or RDX, or NX, or whatever), or compromise and get (most likely of the GV70 alternatives) an Outback. I'm going to pay closer attention to legroom in the GV70 and in the other vehicles we visit or revisit, I think in some cases I said "it's okay" when I meant "it's tolerable" which is very different than "it's nice, and I could move forward to tolerable to accommodate someone in the back seat". That said, the top RDX is C$8000 less than the top GV70 2.5T, haven't studied enough to know if the Genesis is better. On the GV70 2.5T, I want Advanced to replace leatherette with ventilated leather, heated rear seats, rear AC. From Advanced Plus I want HUD, Blind View, and Surround View displays. From Prestige I want Driver's Cushion Extension and Remote Parking Assist (primarily F-B). Of all the other features, the only things I'd remove if I could, are 19" wheels and the sunroof. Pretty much all the other upgrades I can take or leave.

... with the previous pre-orders and now the TSC promo registrants who knows which list will take precedence in receiving the vehicle?
If I had to guess (and it's all I can do), I'd guess anyone signing up through TSC will be in the same queue as not, and with the same priority. That it's just a way to get people to notice, and the $2000 kickback (or whatever it actually costs TSC) comes out of whatever commission they're getting. Definitely guessing.

Other than the Outback and Santa Fe are there any other SUV’s in your radar? I was looking at the Mercedes GLC300 but can’t justify the price
Process started by trying to decide whether to get an Outback or Forester, quickly got complicated. :)
  • Compiled a list of every SUV on the market that I could find.
  • Filtered out based on size (min cargo capacity, min legroom and headroom, max length, some ridiculously high max $).
  • Moved to a spreadsheet capturing key metrics and features for everything model+trim level that had specific must-have (or really-want) features:
    • Cloth seats, or leather with ventilation
    • Power driver's seat (power front-passenger seat if possible)
    • Rear AC vent(s)
    • High safety rating
  • Visited to check comfort in person (sometimes drove if time and inclination):
    • Driver comfort, leg shoulder and hip room
    • Rear seat comfort
    • Ability to get in and out, front and rear, including not too high not too low (we have some family members with mobility issues)
    • Usability of the controls (knobs, buttons, switches, displays, etc.)
An amazing number of cars have been cramped (too little leg, shoulder, and hip room) contrary to what the specs say. Not sure why.

Still in the running are (in no particular order): Subaru Forester, Subaru Outback, Hyundai Tucson Hybrid, Genesis GV70 2.5T, Honda CR-V (not 2021, maybe hypothetical 2022 if they refresh), Acura RDX, Hyundai Santa Fe 2.5T, Lexus NX (probably not 2021, maybe 2022 if they refresh), and BMW X3, Audi Q5, MB GLC, Infiniti QX50, the last 4 having done no real research (so they're neither rejected nor in the running yet). This is obviously a mixed bag, some models with engines only in the 180-190HP range, and others >250HP. Some with MSRP just over C$40K, others with MSRP close or over C$60K. All the first 8 in that list are nice vehicles and I'd probably be happy with any of them. The Outback, Forester, Santa Fe, and Rogue are the clear winners for driver legroom, though the Rogue felt cramped overall. GV70 spec is really tight, it didn't feel as tight as the specs imply but still a bit crowded. But there's something that grabs my attention and keeps pulling me back. :)
 
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