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I know Genesis is really targeting models like the X5 and GLE, but I spect the Lexus RX and Acura MDX are probably top rivals.

If anyone is currently cross-shopping, I'd love to know.
 

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We are cross shopping the GV80 vs. Hyundai Palisade vs. Kia Telluride.

I know the Palisade and Telluride are a class below, but the reviews for both have been so positive that we are questioning whether we want to step up to the GV80. I need to spend some time in a GV80 to know for sure.
 

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That makes sense. I have a Honda Pilot right now. I considered an MDX when I got it, but the Pilot is just some much bigger inside.
 

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That makes sense. I have a Honda Pilot right now. I considered an MDX when I got it, but the Pilot is just some much bigger inside.
Actually feeling out how the vehicle feels inside is key. The images I've seen of the GV80's third row have me a bit concerned -- I need to actually spend time in a GV80 vs. Telluride vs. Palisade and see how all of their interiors compare in person to determine which is roomiest or the most comfortable.
 

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Do you have 3rd row legroom specs for the GV80? Have they release those?
I think we are still waiting for Genesis to release that figure. I searched again just now and don't see that figure anywhere. If anyone knows that dimension or has found a GV80 specs sheet yet, please chime in.

3rd row legroom is important for us. That's why I started this thread: Third row seat room?

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guys the leg room is good enough for a child under the age of 7 most probably. Heck, you see that an adult can't even get their legs properly in there. Size wise, it's smaller than the full size SUV's of Hyundai and Kia. The Genesis is about the luxury and getting the ability for the larger engine. It's a RWD platform, so handling should be much better even in the AWD variant.

Can't go wrong with any of them.

Personally, I'm looking at the new GLE 450 or possibly the 350 (they give about 10% off come Oct when my Jag lease is up. I'm also looking at the Q8 and Jag F Pace S (have the current XFS now and love it). I may drop down with the market tumble to a CPO or a new Palisade's as they look great and for the money would be a nice value I think. I know Hyundai has poor leasing much of the time, so I'm not sure how that will play into my decision. I also worry about the GLE as this new model has so many things going wrong with it and that means I can't trust a CPO or demo. I could possibly look into the X5.
 

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guys the leg room is good enough for a child under the age of 7 most probably. Heck, you see that an adult can't even get their legs properly in there. Size wise, it's smaller than the full size SUV's of Hyundai and Kia. The Genesis is about the luxury and getting the ability for the larger engine. It's a RWD platform, so handling should be much better even in the AWD variant.

Can't go wrong with any of them.

Personally, I'm looking at the new GLE 450 or possibly the 350 (they give about 10% off come Oct when my Jag lease is up. I'm also looking at the Q8 and Jag F Pace S (have the current XFS now and love it). I may drop down with the market tumble to a CPO or a new Palisade's as they look great and for the money would be a nice value I think. I know Hyundai has poor leasing much of the time, so I'm not sure how that will play into my decision. I also worry about the GLE as this new model has so many things going wrong with it and that means I can't trust a CPO or demo. I could possibly look into the X5.
You're right, the GV80 should handle and drive better. That's important to me.

The new GLE are fine vehicles, can't go wrong with one of those either. Does the F-Pace have a 3rd row? I didn't even think to add Jaguar to my radar, guess I'm not used to them having an SUV.

I also need to research more on the leasing and finance rates of all these vehicles. A friend of mine got a great deal on a Palisade, so I know deals are out there. He was so pleased with the Palisade that he went back to the dealer and bought a new Elantra for his college-aged daughter.

I read this Car and Driver comparison of 3-row SUVs, and the Telluride and Palisade came out on top for third-row room. Really not sure yet if I'll get a GV80 when the Telluride and Palisade are so well reviewed, we'll see!

 

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You're right, the GV80 should handle and drive better. That's important to me.

The new GLE are fine vehicles, can't go wrong with one of those either. Does the F-Pace have a 3rd row? I didn't even think to add Jaguar to my radar, guess I'm not used to them having an SUV.

I also need to research more on the leasing and finance rates of all these vehicles. A friend of mine got a great deal on a Palisade, so I know deals are out there. He was so pleased with the Palisade that he went back to the dealer and bought a new Elantra for his college-aged daughter.

I read this Car and Driver comparison of 3-row SUVs, and the Telluride and Palisade came out on top for third-row room. Really not sure yet if I'll get a GV80 when the Telluride and Palisade are so well reviewed, we'll see!

They are tightening up the suspension of the GV for the US market. I I'm not sure if it's the same for the Canadian one though. The best handling cars right now seem to be Porsche and Jag. It's why I got the Jag over the G80 Sport three years ago.

The GLE has a ton of issues in it's first year. That scares me a lot. F Pace doesn't have a three seater right now, but its the most fun to drive (other than the Porsche, which may still in play for me if I go CPO). My wife owns the Audi Q5 and I hate how it handles. You can't go wrong with the Palisade or Telluride's. Great cars and larger than the GV80. They are very well appointed and look ok (some may love the looks though).

I also like the Land Rovers. Jag and LR get bad raps for not being well built, but they also have a 5/60k (or something like that) bumper to bumper and a longer powertrain warrantee. I haven't had any major issues although the interior of the Jag isn't what it used to be, it's still really freaking nice and to me, better than the German's. JMHO
 

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No surprise there. That said, many of these magazines can be 'bought'. I do like MT most of the time and you can't beat what Hyundai is doing these days. I have been a big Mazda fan (first car I ever owned) and once they left Ford (like anyone else who has left them), they have become a really great car to drive for the money.
 

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No surprise there. That said, many of these magazines can be 'bought'. I do like MT most of the time and you can't beat what Hyundai is doing these days. I have been a big Mazda fan (first car I ever owned) and once they left Ford (like anyone else who has left them), they have become a really great car to drive for the money.
Mazdas today are great cars to drive for the money. You see Mazda's commitment to driving dynamics reflected in all the reviews of the CX-9 -- it's one of the sharpest to drive in its class. But honestly, I'm not looking for the most responsive handling vehicle when I'm shopping in this class. I want comfort and luxury for driving the family and friends around. And the GV80 has potential to be the very top of the class. We just need reviews and time to explore one.
 

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The GV80 is in a totally different class than the others. It's NOT the largest. Only small children will even fit in the back seat and on the Prestige 3.5 there isn't even a back seat, lol (3rd row). This isn't going against Acura, Infinity or Lexus, but it will take some of their business. Heck, Infinity is bleeding and Acura makes a bit nicer Honda and that's about it. Lexus IS old and boring right now and most Lexus owners I know hate their waterfall grill. Hate it. I do too. At the top end, this is going against the Europeans. It will come down to performance a bit and I do wish they gave massage seats up front. That said, the interior looks like it's special and I've DM'd with a couple of reviewers who have reviewed the others in this segment and they like the interior layout, quality and looks best. To me, that says a lot. I worry about resale value and that's a big unknown right now. Cost of ownership will depend on that and when I'm ready, the others will offer 2020 models at 10% or more off the prices plus the military discount as well as the other discounts I usually get when buying. It will always come down to costs and I am alway open to CPO's, but with tech the way it is, I'd only get a demo or CPO that's a model year old. That's just me.
 

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We own an Audi Q5 and I was looking at the Q8. It's nice and if I can get a great deal on a 2020 demo that's fully loaded, I may have interest. That said, I'm not the biggest Audi fan for some reason. I do like the Q8 and the S7' though. I was told the Aviator has had so many problems that include recalls that it's scary even on a lease.

We had been BMW only since 97 (other than a Toyota and the first year Q7 for me), but left them a few years ago for personal reasons with the local dealer making fun of my MS (I use a rollator to walk), but I"m open to looking at them again. I really still love ht Jags and they have a full 5 year warranty and some free services etc.. They are for fun driving though and not a larger SUV
 

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I was primarily looking at the X5, and possibly the Aviator. Less so at the Q7. The Aviator is bis and posh - CR likes it ride, comfort, and interior. CR originally rated the X5 its best ever SUV. But qualiyu problems dropped from a 98 to 72.
 

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I personally love the GLE 450 too, but it's new this year and has had major issues too. I would only purchase when it is 10% off or so a years end when my lease it up (oct). I have friends who have owned the new X5 and had many issues, so that's another reason I haven't really looked at it, but I may still as I have a dealer close enough to do business with if I chose.
 

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I was very interested in the Palisade and Telluride but after reading about the problems encountered by owner's I decided to wait until the GV80 is on the market here in the USA and see what owner's will say about it. A few days ago I saw this test drive of the GV80 on YouTube:

Unfortunately the reviewer encountered what looked to be the same or similar wind noise issue as the Palisade has for some owners. The reviewer refers to the noise coming from the "A pillar" at 60 mph and up. This comment about the A pillar area being very noisy begins at minute 18 into the video.
 
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